Posts by Las Malvinas son Argentinas

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Kim Silvio: I'll save you from watching it and give you my notes here in several posts:

Andrew Gold starts off by saying he reached out to Lloyd shortly after the scandal broke and offered his support, agreeing with Lloyd he was being bullied. It was Lloyd’s idea to do he interview

Lloyd goes into his background and activism, repeating “I hate to talk myself up on this” when describing his accomplishments

Doesn’t give any details other than he had problems in his marriage due to his infidelities and he reached out to those closest to him (Kim and Bob) as a means to inform them and keep them apprised of what was going on. Says that was his cue to them to quit had they felt they couldn’t work with him because of these revelations. Instead they offered support and misled him.

Started the “meltdown group” and his confidence had gotten violated. Claims he was victimised by having to explain himself whilst he was dealing with these marital and mental health issues

Reiterates that he wasn’t looking for love, it was only sex workers. Andrew chimes in that a lot of people are unfaithful to their wives with sex workers. Andrew brings up that he was a leader in the movement and a CSA advocate, and this naturally brings up questions. Lloyd responds that he is not a leader, just a voice. “Words matter” and he has never claimed to be a leader or moral authority. Says he is an advocate for the cover-up of CSA. Using sex workers is a huge difference with CSA and has nothing to do with it.

Brings up Ukraine and how so many are suffering there and wishes he didn’t have to speak about his problems and focus on the atrocities there.

Says there is a difference between whistleblowing and bullying, and he is being shamed over his private life. He has done nothing wrong and people are trying to pin things on him. Says it’s unfortunately the reality for him with such a huge channel that people will try to destroy him.

Complains he has no protection against this bullying, people can go to YT and enter his name and find all sorts of lies about him. Andrew chimes in that they are trying to make a name for themselves and borrow off his fame.

Says this is incredibly stressful and challenging. Andrew agrees with this and says people are trying to punish him and knock him down. Agrees with Lloyd that sex workers and CSA are two different things entirely.

Compares himself to Spiderman, “with great power comes responsibility”. Goes after Joe Rogan and says his comments on COVID are irresponsible. He accepts the responsibility, but judge him on his words, not his actions. He’s entitled to a private life and this is no one else’s business. Andrew says “a lot of people would agree with you” but does press him on people can and do judge him by his actions. Andrew makes the point that sex workers could have been trafficked. Lloyd says it was between consenting adults and brushes this concern off. Andrew says it is a blurry line between this and presses further. Lloyd is a little rattled by this and gives this tidbit:

“I dated a sex worker in Thailand”

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

The podcast is out. Lloyd is accusing everyone who has brought up the Thailand sex trafficking angle as a racist.

It's bad. This will answer none of your questions and provides Lloyd with a platform. I strongly urge Kim Silvio and possibly others who have interacted with Lloyd take him up on any offer to explain their side.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Check out this comment on Andrew's video:

So Dijana was so freaked out by his disappearance she had to resort to calling people whom she barely knew. And Lloyd could not be bothered to give two fucks about it and only seemed to care when she finally stated she was getting a divorce. Even then he probably was more concerned about the financial aspects of the divorce, not of the damage he had done to his marriage.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

I wonder if the channel that interviewed Lloyd would be willing to interview Kim Silvio to give the other side of the story

If Kim Silvio is interested in doing her own interview with Andrew Gold, I think this point should be pressed to him. In the comments already on the video link, Andrew has mentioned there were several facts he wasn't aware of before he made the video. Andrew had no idea Lloyd had asked his wife for an open relationship after being unfaithful in Texas, and after backing out of such an arrangement, directed his anger at Dijana and fled to Thailand.

That's a very important contextual piece of information to leave out, especially when Lloyd starts into his sexual repression schtick and how much he does love his wife.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

He'll ask for blind trust and won't admit that they are in fact true comments.

This is a horrible idea for him to do this interview. He always has to have the "last word" and believes he has this special kind of "mic drop" reasoning that people will just gobble up in a Road to Damascus moment.

It's clear from the comments on this video that Andrew Gold is out for views and knows quite well this is a goldmine for his channel.

How Lloyd doesn't understand this is baffling. He said he hired a PR agent. They would be on the phone now begging Andrew Gold not to air this. This will not get Patrons to come back to him and in fact probably convince a few more of the seriousness of what he has done. Not to mention this starts up all sorts of Twitter threads, rebuttal YT videos, and keeps this thread going strong.

What a fool.

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Response to "The Flood is Real, Because ..."

by Simon in

i remember one of the flowchart responses to people questioning the biblical flood was something along the lines that "every culture has a flood story".. of course, nearly everywhere has flooded at one time or another and we know there are minor floods and then there are the 1-in-1000 year kind of weather event, that tend to get a mention (anyone from the uk will still talk about the summer of '76, and that's probably nothing in comparison to a decent flood).. but the inference is that the flood must be real, because every culture has a flood story.. the best response is "now do dragons".. because apparently, nearly every culture also has a dragon legend.. does it mean dragons exist?

some desperate jw may show their ignorance by suggesting that man lived at the same time as dinosaurs and they are what the stories were based on.

fun fact: stegosaurus was a fossil when t-rex was alive for longer than it's been since t-rex has been a fossil to us - we're talking old, and no overlap (ignore the map in the cover of the old green bible).. do jws still even bother trying to defend the cray-cray aesop-fable kind of ot beliefs?.

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Flood myths are likely retelling of events that felt to the locals that were on a global scale being that they had little idea of how big the planet is. It has been well researched how at one time the Black Sea basin was a lot lower than it is today with ancient beaches discovered deep under the sea. The theory is the sea broke through the Bosporus straits and flooded it until it reached the level of the sea. Babylon wasn't too far from this area and this was a major event that likely took many lives.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

So in 7.5 hours from now (6am Australian time), lloyd is being interviewed by Andrew Gold who is a Youtuber.

"Trolls Took Me to the Brink" is the title. Now put on your Lloyd Evans thinking cap and you'll get an insightful preview of what is going to happen in this interview:

He'll give Andrew a heavily sanitised version of what transpired in Thailand vis-vis his crumbling marriage, sexual repression, etc. - basically a redacted form of his livestream.
He'll quickly pivot to Kim's "betrayal", how at one point she seemed to condone his behaviour, and then proceed to list the accomplices Kim recruited in her "anti-Cedars crusade" shortly thereafter, starting with Producer Bob, etc, and how she went to avowed haters of his such as Mike/Kim, Marc/Cora and thus the conspiracy to destroy him was hatched.
State repeatedly that this isn't anyone's business, glossing over the livestream and several social media statements and tweets, claiming he was forced into defending himself.
Claim both him and his wife have been threatened and harassed (pro-tip from the old JWN days - He always claimed how a thread he happened to be melting down on was hurting his wife in a transparent attempt to gain sympathy)
Reveal he's still living there and wants to work things out with his wife and couldn't bear to be without her and his two little girls (again mentioning their names) and cue the first tears of the interview.
And finally, and here's the "money-shot", he'll tearfully reveal how he was close to suicide over these past two months, possibly even detailing an attempt - something like "I was looking at this bottle of pills and I was ready to down them all with my whiskey. The bottle touched my lip but then I thought of how much my death would hurt my two little girls"
Make a final appeal to his dedicated army of haters to stop the abuse and claim his wife wishes the same. Gives a "Come Back to Lloyd" WT style homily and tries to end it on a hopeful note about fighting the real enemy.

I can only hope Andrew will ask him real questions and not toss him some softballs he's ready to answer.

P.S. - Lloyd, it would be a HORRIBLE idea to mention a certain forum with a 145 page thread full of "abuse" toward you. Please don't do it, it will embarrass us all. I certainly wouldn't want some of Andrew's 4K+ subscribers coming here and finding out the awful and LIBELOUS claims that are being made about you.

P.S.S. - Andrew's viewers are typically not former cult members who are invested in you, so when you do "cry", keep your hand over your eyes to hide the lack of real tears and ask Andrew to pause the interview so you can "regain your composure" and come back claiming that you are better now that you shed a ton of tears off-camera.

And as they say in show-business - break a leg. Have a nice performance.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Perhaps Lloyd, as Tibor's employer, has asked him to review social media platforms and report back as he may not have that much work to do?

The boy needs to learn some Kingdom songs....

Who'll tell the haters what's in store?

Who'll clarify the girl in the pic is not a whore?

Lloyd here I am, Send me! Send me!

I'll defend you on JWD fearlessly!

No greater honour could there be, Lloyd.

Here I am, Send me! Send me!

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

577 patrons now.

Perhaps having Tibor coming to this forum to preach the Gospel of Lloyd wasn't such a grand idea?

I'm getting an absolute kick out of these two clowns. Lloyd Evans has gone full Spinal Tap!

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

I love how not a single person has taken me up on my offer to contact my college email to verify it's actually me.

Tibor - I don't think you understand our style of humour. Your friend/boss has a rotten reputation here and this extends to people associated with him due to the strong cult of personality he cultivates. It was mentioned that you might be Lloyd as a tongue-in-cheek gag, but fine - you're Tibor and there's no greenscreen.

Why people are giving you shit is because you continue to be associated with a lying, deceitful, greedy, rubbish bin of a human being. Mind you - you can personally be a great guy in real life. But being Lloyd's right hand guy coming into this forum is akin to JWs entering the most hardcore and private biker club and handing out Watchtowers. So you're going to get some stares, snide comments and what-not.

Now if we're willing to grant that you are indeed Tibor the gracious one, and you are correct about there being no greenscreen, can you please provide your own commentary (not Lloyd's, you are not him) on what this thread is really about? Keep it to only what your boss has stated during the livestream and in his various statements on social media. Feel no need to comment on unsubstantiated rumours, only on what Lloyd has already stated in public.